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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:31 pm

Just like where most of your references come from...where do mine come from?
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:32 pm

From Naruto.
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:37 pm

That's not true! The only one that remotely comes from Naruto is when the tournament is attacked, though those were Susano's plans, so there was no way to really avoid the resemblances.
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:42 pm

Roister giving up. you forgot that one. and that one was all you =p.
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:12 pm

That was just a coincidence.
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Post  zfish9 Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:17 pm

You want to quote Yuuko's (From xXxHolic) favorite line to answer that LS or should I?
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:22 pm

^ you can because i just typed out a really nice explanation and i forgot to check to see if someone else posted and my post got deleted x_x
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Post  zfish9 Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:24 pm

There is no such thing as coincidence, only inevitability.


okay, now back to LS to re-type her post for a better answer.
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:27 pm

my post basically said its possible you just subconsciously wrote something similar and how a lot of people do that (myself included) and how there's a psychology behind it about creating the myth. and then i said i was just kidding around anyway and for the most part your ideas are original and im sorry if i offended you. thats what it said in a nutshell....
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:32 pm

It's impossible to make anything 100% original. A story has used a plot one place or another.
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:34 pm

^ yes i know. but there are certain formulas that humans (in general) use over and over again. The belly of the whale is an example of this. its been used since bible times and was recently used in Where the Wild Things Are. thats what i meant.
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:36 pm

So...I should use a scene with a whale and its belly?
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Post  zfish9 Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:40 pm

hey, while we're going for unorigonalness, make sure someone is inside the whale with their living puppet and have another guy on a boat obsessing over killing it.
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:44 pm

no, im saying there are certain metaphorical situations that have been used throughout history in order to symbolize certain ideas. and the belly of the whale was just an example. and it doesnt even have to be a whale. in Where the Wild Things Are, it was the belly of a Wild Thing.

LS, dont complicate the conversation.
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:46 pm

...So the belly of Appa?
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:55 pm

You could argue Aang being on the back of the Lion Turtle is the belly of the whale motif. He went inside the world on the turtle's shell instead of being physically inside the turtle.
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:58 pm

No that's a metaphor for TMNT!
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:09 pm

^ its more of a metaphor for the Neverending Story and Aladdin and the King of Thieves. Especially Aladdin and the King of Thieves. I mean, it's like the same situation minus the fact that there's no magical relic on the turtle that can turn anything it touches into gold.
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:16 pm

Where's Lee? He was so much more fun!

Who me?

No! Lee! Christmas!....

......Where'd he go?
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:20 pm

CHRISTMAS! Look Ai-chan, everyone wants to play with me!

Well, that's because you're just so darn cute.

Yay =D. So who wants to finish decorating the Christmas tree with me?!
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:24 pm

Oh me me! I want to hang my seashell on it!
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:27 pm

Yay! Put it up. Put it high though since me and Ai-chan always have trouble hanging the ornaments at the top of the tree....

Lol XD.

What are you laughing at? You have the same problem.

T_T....I'm putting up my Belle ornament!

=D
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:29 pm

I feel so special now!

Me too!

*Hangs Seashell on taller branches.*
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Post  Loyal Subject Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:33 pm

Hey, I want to decorate the tree! *takes an ornament and puts it up.*

Ai-chan, hoist me up so I can put the star on!

You're too big for that Lee, you'll end up crushing Ai.

*Zito lifts Lee up to put the star up.*

Yay!
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Post  Lee Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:39 pm

Zito!!!

...So is it true? Ai says you said that people live in bubbles at BaSingSe!
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