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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:23 pm

Alright, so I just want you to give honest suggestions for how we could probably get guests or people interested in our forum.

I'm not necessarily trying to grab the attention of visitors strictly for the RP, like we've always tried to do, just members.

Any ideas you got, interesting, complex, simple, just voice them here, it'll be greatly appreciated. While I do enjoy your company on the forum LS, let's face it, the sites pretty dead.

I didn't mind it as much when the whole gang was here, Haru, Zfish, Karin, and some others, but now they're gone. I just feel bringing some new members here, for the forum and or RP would bring some fresh life here.

Plus we could make a whole different RP (not getting rid of our existing one) so that new comers can enjoy this 2nd Main RP without feeling like they were left out or behind years ago.


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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:31 pm

i would say advertise but avatarspirit.net doesnt allow that.

i think whatever plan we come up with should be executed after Comic Con 11. because mike and bryan are going to be at comic con and im betting they're going to have some Korra stuff. this way, a whole bunch of people will be in the 'avatar' mood again and we can keep them interested throughout Korra to the point where they'll become loyal members XD <= sounds like im trying to take over the world or something =p

how we get more people, no clue. i dont really know anyone that watches avatar enough where they would rp. actually, i only know one person and i dont like that person so i dont want them coming here XD.

i could put my stories on dA and ff.net and say 'join the rp :D" though i dont think many people will read them. but i could try =D
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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:37 pm

Well if you don't mind adding the link on your FF or DA page, that would be great! I think I've done that with my DA and FF page, granted my FF page is our websites page lol.

I was thinking the same thing about the Korra influx, but when is the comic con supposed to be? Even if it is soon or a few months ahead, we still need to think of ways we can lure them in. Like maybe with different features, layout designs, or whatever.

And yes, you'll be my tactical strategist.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:45 pm

it's the end of July. plenty of time.

and yeah, ill put links up when i submit my stories. granted, ff.net is dying down i feel so we may not get much response. or rather, with ff.net it's better to post the story RIGHT when the comic con is going on. because that's when all the fans will storm the internet looking for avatar stuff. and most people leave the feature as 'newest' stories coming up first.

but dA it doesnt matter because it goes by popularity. so i could put a few stories up now.

i honestly dont know what else to do. im not very good at self promotion =/.

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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:52 pm

Well do what you can (with the link pasting) if you want to. I'm not forcing you to do it though.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:00 pm

nah ill do it. i was thinking about posting my one shot rp stories on dA at the very least anyway :)
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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:17 pm

Very nice, I'll be looking forward to those! Oh and I got something Avatar related to post on DA to!
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:21 pm

i posted one story so far :D
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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:32 pm

Yeah I noticed, I'll have to look into them further. It was taking forever to load my file. For the record I did that when I was at school one day, waiting for traffic to die down. I needed to get away from school work and worrying about progressing the RP, because both were seeming too much like a chore at the time.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:39 pm

the RP only feels like a chore sometimes to me when im battling and i cant figure out what to do. cause im not good at the action sequences =p
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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:41 pm

Sounds about right for you lol. It shouldn't be a chore for either of us and that's sort of why I took a break from it for a while. I might had been able to work with it and form a story, along with all my college piled work, but I didn't want to stress out about it. It should be fun and that's why I put it at hold for the time being.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:17 pm

rping relaxes me oddly enough. then again, im not the one moving the story or writing it, for that matter =p
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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:34 pm

Yeah see, it's different in that matter. I liked it a lot more when I wasn't moving it, way back when Bright and Susano were moving it. Granted that's probably why they left. It just lost it's touch to them, being that they were the controllers and knew everything from start to finish. Plus whenever they would log in, they would feel compelled to just come on to move the RP (because we always nagged them to) That would be such a pain to come on to see everyone throwing a shitstorm of hail of topics related to that and eventually stress them out to leave.

So after I learned a lot about the story, it then lost that touch of fun to that part. However I found another thing that made it interesting. Having the whole group, Karin, Zfish, you, and Haru to a lesser extent going through the story, experiencing the events, and sometimes shocking and revealing events.

Though when everyone, but you left, that sort of died down a little to. Still you've managed to hang around, so I haven't lost all interest to it totally. Don't take this as like I'm not liking the story, because that's not true. It's just that if the others were still here, I think it would be more exciting.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:48 pm

well, to be fair, we waited like a year for them to move the RP and they never did. nor did they come on to say 'hey im just busy' or whatever like you do. i dont think there would have been as much complaining if they just acted responsibly and told the rest of us what was going on.

plus, even though they had the original story laid out, there were enough characters in the RP at that time where we could have easily changed the plans of the RP. obviously, Rosso dying so soon wasnt part of the plan but it certainly changed things dramatically. the problem is now we only have two people left so there's not that much room to change the RP.

i honestly dont get why so many people left the RP without the story being finished. it just doesnt make any sense to me. like, yeah ill admit i lose interest in things im working on too but (when writing a story anyway) i usually wrap it up then so that there is an ending. i dont just abandon it and i know a lot of people that do that and i just dont get it.

EDIT: though, i think im at an advantage in this case: my character (and therefore I) have a definitive reason to keep going. Ai HAS to see Ryuzaki again. it's something that just has to happen otherwise she (nor I) will ever be satisfied. she needs to see him and hear from him wtf happened in the village. i dont know if the other characters have that strong of a need to keep moving forward. if they didn't have a strong need like that, then i guess i can kind of see why they left.
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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:58 pm

Well I don't know what the right word to use is, but most people lack motivation and the ability to stick through with something in the long run. People usually will show a lot of interest in the beginning, but by the end that certain feeling usually dies out and sooner or later has to be replaced with a stronger determination, which usually isn't as fun or magical as the earlier stages.

It's basically on the same line as school projects or a relationship with someone.

I will admit to pestering some people to get to posting when they just slack off with the RP, namely Zfish most of the time. That's something Bright and Susano never did and why at times the RP was at a standstill. It aggravated me that they never took that initiative to whip people into posting or just use a threat like they were going to take them out, because I know I waited on a lot of people in the early parts to post to continue the RP.

I don't blame them for not doing that though, because that totally makes it into a chore and if I realized anything, most people can't be arsed to do much unless you constantly pull their teeth, which is a pain in the ass.

I can also see where you're going with your Ai post. For me it's kind of to show you guys the awesome stuff that Susano and Bright left me, but I want to do so subtly and nicely. I could had totally done it a lot quicker, but it would had fallen so short that it probably would had sucked. What are your thoughts on the RP and the way things have been revealed so far?
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:33 pm

as i said, i do lack motivation at times the more i get into something but i just dont see how you could flat out end something. the only thing i really flat out stop doing is if im drawing something and that's usually cause i lack the skill to actually execute it properly.

i actually did try to join other RPs because ours was slowing down. sort of as some other form of story to past the time. however, they all died down and i didnt like the way they were organized. it was just...annoying as hell.

yeah, i hated to wait too...though it's kind of ironic since i was the most reluctant to join the RP in the beginning XD.

i think its better to reveal things gradually as opposed to all at once. it lowers the suspense otherwise. i actually was looking at a friend's story about D.Grayman where they revealed the character's backstory in the first chapter and i suggested she move it to later in the story for that reason.

plus, again going back to Ai, if she were to see Ryuzaki right after the stupid betrayal happened, she never would have learned anything.

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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:42 pm

Most times I'll stop working on something if I become stressed or burnt out, like with school projects. Teachers will tell me to keep working with it after the project or class is done, but I just mentally laugh in my head. This project caused too much grief, I'm putting it at hold.

Granted those things aren't on the same level as the RP to me, so it leaves me to believe that the others just weren't really into the RP. It's sad, but the truth can be sucky sometimes.

I've joined RPs before and after this RP started. I never really got into them before, but after this started up I did. I do agree though, a lot of times the RPs are unorganized because no one takes control, people post fiftybajillion things, leave people behind, and it's just flat out a mess. A lot of the times, or at least what I've realized is too many people try to make every RP I've been part of (except this one) to be some kind of overly sexed up romantic bullcrap.

Oh we just met, let's have sex. After those first few lines, I flatout leave and never come back.

About the RP though, what are your thoughts on it. Do you also think that things that were revealed were done so too quickly, too slowly, or around the middle?
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:56 pm

i cant rest until the projects are done. it adds more stress.

and yeah they're a mess the ones ive seen. like, it was mostly the one that i joined held little to no plot. it was just everyone 'leveling up' and stuff with almost no story going on. my god, it was annoying.

lol omg ive never seen an RP with R-rated material XD. jeez. that's just ridiculous.

i like the RP. and i dont think it's fair for me to say if things are moving too slowly because, as i said, battles are slow for me. so i think it's just the right pace.

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Post  Lee on Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:00 pm

Well back when we had a whole group, I wanted to distribute enough time to actiony parts like battles and whatnot for those who liked it and also for those who liked the complicated dramas like you lol.

Still I like both just as much, maybe action a teeny bit more, so that's why that stuff might seem to drag on just as much as the other. And yeah it wasn't always sex, but it should had been. People just kissing at first sight or whatever the hell. It was just a bunch of hormonal teen girls and some guy who was always RPing as the Fonz or whoever the hell.

Yeah I also feel the same way about school projects. Until they're done, I'm not free because there's always something I think of that I might just need to work on in order to get a better grade.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:06 pm

lol at RP people.

and yeah, i feel the same way about projects.
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Post  Lee on Wed May 04, 2011 2:35 pm

I renamed some of the forum sections and switched their placement (for visitors purposes)

We want them to see what our forum has to offer, with the main RP section at the bottom. It may take us some time to get use to that part, but let's just see how it goes first.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Wed May 04, 2011 4:41 pm

okay :]

it's going to be weird getting used to
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Post  Lee on Wed May 04, 2011 4:43 pm

It's better this way. I thought about it and a guest should be seeing our more broader subjects before seeing the RP which is now at the bottom.

That way they're not overwhelmed (if they are) when checking out the site. I think it will work better this way. I don't quite know how to explain it.
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Post  Loyal Subject on Wed May 04, 2011 4:44 pm

no i agree. im just saying it's hard getting used to because it's so different XD
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Post  Lee on Wed May 04, 2011 4:48 pm

I'm also fixing the homepage header buttons, if you haven't noticed yet lol. I just feel it makes the site more easy on the eyes.

I originally kept the site dark black, with those obnoxious koas or whatever they are so that everyone felt comfortable with the move. Now that everyone is pretty much gone, it's time to fix the site into a working one, so that we can gain more attention and not just a quick glance of how unbearable our site is to the eyes.
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